Hate-America is a baseless mania?

Posted today on a email list, it was a reply to a sarcastic comment made (first few lines below) from another poster – a good reply:

Raven, remember the US is less bad its not like they torture, start preemptive wars, or seize private property without due process.
Hate-America is a baseless mania. No?

Where do you get your information?

Haven’t you heard of legalized torture? It was passed within the last year in the US, in response to accusations against the US military. See http://www.google.com/search?q=legalized+torture

You’ve never heard of the US starting preemptive wars? The Bush Doctrine specifically calls for preemptive military force, and the US has used preemptive force at least as far back as the 1820’s under John Quincy Adams. They regularly stick their noses into situations that don’t involve defense of the US.

There are numerous cases of private property being seized and handed over to other private parties. For example, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4715674. I’d say this almost by definition is without due process.

There are numerous other examples. The IRS can seize your assets without even a hearing. The state of Virginia can create a tax judgment against you AS THOUGH there had been a court case, even when there wasn’t.

“Hate-America” might be a mania, but it is certainly not baseless.